Online Glasnik Bosanskog kongresa - Bajramsko sijelo
Date :
Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:30:34 -0800
2. Decembar 2001.
ONLINE GLASNIK BOSANSKOG KONGRESA
1. Pisma
2. Ko je zasluzan za podizanje optuznice protiv Milosevica
za Genocid u Bosni i Hercegovini?
3. Predstavljamo patriotske poduhvate
4. Obavjestenje o Bajramskom sijelu u Bostonu
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1. PISMA
BORCI NISU VISE U MODI
Veoma mi je drago da pored Bosanskog kongresa jos neko objavljuje istinu o
Ratnim Vojnim Invalidima i o invalidima uopste. Zasto su zaboravljeni "RVI",
tekst objavljen na Saray.net stranicama
http://www.saray.net/comment/default.asp?id=u7
pa makar neka neko vidi pravu sliku odnosa "nasih" vlasti prema Ratnim
Vojnim Invalidima. Vec dugo se borim pisanim slovom protiv takvih
koji su mi se ogadili za sva vremena, jer drukcije ne mogu.
Moje ime je Jasko. Rodjen sam u Sarajevu 1970 godine, gdje sam se
skolovao, provodio prelijepe trenutke u sreci i veselju, navijao za Zelju,
a zatim tugovao za svim prijateljima, sugradjanima, zemljacima, clanovima
svoje familije, koji su dali svoje zivote za sve nas, i bolovao tudje, ali i
svoje rane zadobijene teskim ranjavanjem snajperskim metkom "davne"
suncane subote 30-og Jula 1994. Sada zivim novi zivot vezan za
invalidska kolica, kako ja imam obicaj da kazem saleci se na svoj racun
"Ja vise ne hodam sad se kotrljam.", "Nisam vise pjesadija, sad sam
motorizovan.".
Pravi razlog zasto pisem ovu stranicu je zato sto niko vise ne pise
(cast izuzetcima) o mnogima koji su, kako moj dobri drug Bega kaze,
zaboravljeni, ili jos tuznije nema ih na mapi. Ali ima ima itekako. Svugdje
su tragovi, mezarja, grobovi, tuzna i razocarana lica majki i oceva, brace i
sestara koji su ostali bez svojih najmilijih, i onih koji su ostali "citavi", a
ustvari osakaceni ili umno ili tjelesno.
Brzo se zaboravilo? - pitam se ovih dana pokusavajuci da pronadjem jedan
jedini clanak o borcima i invalidima, ali bez uspjeha (CAST
IZUZETCIMA-BOSANSKI KONGRES, SARAY.NET ). Zar je moguce?
JEL TO NISMO VISE U MODI?
....
Kazu ljudi neka ti ga zivog, makar i u kolicima. Ama slazem se ja, ali se ipak
treba zapitati kako je njemu u kolicima, prija li mu da ga takvog gledaju?
Nego, nije to vise vazno, VAZNO je to da se pocelo zaboravljati.
E da Vas prisjetim na moje drage Rahmetlije: Natka koji je ostavio dvoje male
djece, Dine naseg dragog, oca troje djece, Celik Edina heroja sa osmjehom,
Pepija koji pogide donoseci nam kahvu, Hajre koji ostavi svoju Senku u
cetvrtom mjesecu, Samira-Bumbe muzicara kojeg ubise oni koji mu pozavidise
sto on zna da igra kosarku, Selima koji dade svog sina, a i sebe cekajuci da se
iz udruzenja sinovi drine (namjerno pisem malim slovima jer bolje i nisu
zasluzili)
saberu i sakupe 5.000 maraka ne bi li mu se pomoglo da se operise i tako prezivi
agoniju i bol, i mnoge druge vec zaboravljene. NAZALOST.
VJERUJEM DA CE SE MNOGI ZAPITATI NAD OVIM TEKSTOM, VJERUJEM
DA CE SE MNOGI SJETITI SVOJIH KOMSIJA, PRIJATELJA, SUGRADJANA, I
ZEMLJAKA. VJERUJEM, JER NE ZELIM DA SE ZABORAVI, NE DAM DA SE ZABORAVI.
SELLAM I POZDRAV SVIMA, POSEBNO CLANOVIMA BOSANSKOG KONGRESA
I REDAKCIJI SARAJ.NET-a.
SVE NABOLJE,
JASMIN MILAK
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Re: Olimpijada
HOCEMO LI SKRIVATI NASU BIJEDU IZA BIJELIH PANOA
Postovani,
srdacno vam zahvaljujem sto ste mi poslali ovu prepisku, u koju se
ukljuceujem jednim svojim pitanjem:
HOCEMO LI OPET STAVLJATI VISOKE BIJELE PANOE
KAD GOSTI I UCESNICI OLIMPIJADE BUDU PROLAZILI
PORED RUZNIH SIROTINJSKIH NASELJA U SARAJEVU KAO
STO JE TO BILO 1984. U SUHOM CENTRU SARAJEVA U
GUNDULICEVOJ ULICI? BOJIM SE DA CE NAM BIJELIH
PANOA KJI CE SAKRITI NASU SIROTINJU TREBATI BAREM
ZA POLA GRADA, PA I BOSNE. ILI MISLIMO DA CEMO
SVOJOM SIROTINJOM PRIVUCI SVJETSKI JET SET?
Srdacno vasa,
Ferida Durakovic
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Re: Olimpijada
NE MOZE SE OLIMPIJADOM IZBRISATI GENOCID
Slazem se,
samo: od genocida napravljena tkz. "republika srpska" ce takva uvjek i
ostati: neprirodna cetnicko-osvojena regija. Oteli su je ubijanjem, silovanjem
i genocidom ne-pravoslavnog naroda.
Ne zaboravimo da su im Englezi i Rusi mnogo pomogli u tim planovima za
uvecanje srbije preko Drine.
Hvala Vam lijepo. Samo naprijed....
Ekrem Spahic
Zmaj od Bosne
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Re: Olimpijada
OPTUZBA PROTIV MILOSEVICA ZA GENOCID - NOVA SANSA ZA BiH
Dragi Muhamede,
sada kada je Milosevic optuzen za genocid u Bosni,
mislim da bi trebalo objavljivati sto svise takstova o
tome da je ovakvo stanje u Bosni, stanje postignuto
genocidom, neodrzivo. Znam, reci ces, to je glavna
tematika bila i do sada, ali, sve jedno, sada je pravo
vrijeme da se jos odlucnije digne glas i protv RS i
HB, odnosno Federacije...
Selam, Ibrahim Halilovic
Ova sugestija je usvojena. U danasnjem broju, pod tackom 3.
dajemo nekoliko linkova do patriotskih poduhvata Bosnjaka
gdje sete naci mnogo clanaka o kljucnim politickim temama,
ukljucujuci i Genocid.
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CESTITAMO DAN DRZAVNOSTI I OBECAVAMO DA
NECEMO ODUSTATI OD REPUBLIKE BiH
U povodu 25. novembra,
DANA DRZAVNOSTI REPUBLIKE BOSNE I HERCEGOVINE,
svim Bosancima i Hercegovcima koji i dalje drze do rodjendana nase
Domovine upucujemo iskrene cestitke.
Istovremeno upucujemo poruke onima koji su prihvatili da obiljezavaju
21. novembar kao drzavni praznik BiH (Dan formalnog ukidanja Republike
Bosne i Hercegovine - potpisivanje Sporazuma u Daytonu) da mi, bh.
patriote, ma gdje bili i ma koliko da nas ima, nismo odustali od borbe
za
nepodjeljenu, ravnopravnu i suverenu drzavu - Republiku Bosnu i
Hercegovinu, makar se ta borba cinila neravnopravnom i dugotrajnom.
Previse volimo svoju Domovinu, ciji 58. rodjendan danas obiljezavamo, da
bi ikad odustali od borbe za nju. Daleko je vise mi volimo, nego sto je
neki mrze!
REDAKCIJA WEB STRANICE: http://www.ferhadija.com
Napomena, stiglo nam je jos cestitki Dana drzavnosti, ali smo
ovu odabrali zato sto nije samo kurtoazna, nego nosi u sebi
patriotski zavjet da cemo istrajati u borbi.
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2. KO JE ZASLUZAN ZA PODIZANJE OPTUZNICE ZA
GENOCID U BiH PROTIV MILOSEVICA
Povodom podizanja optuznice protiv Milosevica za Genocid u Bosni i
Hercegovini, dosli smo do zapisnika sa zvanicnog sastanka "Udruzenja
gradjana Majke Srebrenice i Podrinja", sa glavnom Tuziteljicom Tribunala
u Hagu, Carlom Del Ponte. Sastanak Je odrzaN 4. februara 2000.
Zahvaljujemo Prof Boyley, Advokatu "Majki Srebrenice i Podrinja" sto
nam je poslao ovaj istorijski dokument.
Ovo jeste istorijski dokument, jer se iz ovog zapisnika vidi da je
optuznica protiv Milosevica za genopcid u Bosni i Hercegovini podignuta
zato sto su postojali neki ljudi koji su to pokrenuli. Prirodno bi bilo da su ti
ljudi dosli iz BiH vlasti. Medjutim, svjedoci smo da su to majke Srebrenice i
Podrinja, organizacija ponikla direktno iz naroda, ljudi veoma ogranicenih
materijalnih sredstva koji su se organizovali i rade posao koji treba njihova
vlast da uradi.
Nazalost, BiH vlasti (i Izetbegoviceve i Lagumdjijine) sve cine da
ukinu i drugu Tuzbu za genocid, a to je Tuzba Republike BiH protiv
Jugoslavije, pred pred jednim drugim, vaznijim sudom, Internacionalnim
sudom pravde, koji se takodjer nalazi u Haagu.
Pismo Prof Boylea objavljujemo u cjelini, kako smo ga i primili. Na
pocetku i na kraju su kratke napomene Prof Boylea, a u sredini je
autenticni zapisnik sa pomenutog sastanka.
Mi cemo vam samo prevesti pocetnu napomenu Prof Boylea koja je u stvari
jedan size onoga sto se dogodilo na tom sastanku. Naglasavam da je Prof
Boyle u toj kratkoj napomeni preporucio i oidobrio svakome ko zeli da
objavi taj zapisnik.
Slijedi prevod uvodne napomene Prof Boylea:
Dragi prijatelju,
Ovo je zapisnik sa naseg sastanka sa Tuziteljicom suda za ratne zlocine
(ICTY) Carlom Del Ponte koji se odrzao 4. Februara 2000 i gdje sam je ja
ubijedio da podigne optuznicu protiv Milosevica za njegove zlocine u Bosni,
a sto je ona upravo ovih dana ucinila. Slobodni ste do ovo publicirat, ako
zelite.
Bosanska vlada je propustila da odradi taj posao.
Kraj prevoda.
Slijedi zapisnik sa sastanka sa pocetnim i zavrsnim
komentarom Prof Boylea, u originalu na Engleskom
Dear Friend: Here is an account of our Meeting with ICTY Prosecutor
Carla Del Ponte on February 4, 2000, where I convinced her to indict
Milosevic for his crimes in Bosnia, which she has just done. You are
free to publish this if you wish.
The Bosnian Government failed to do this work.
Best regards,
fab.
Francis A. Boyle
Law Building
504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
Champaign, IL 61820 USA
217-333-7954(voice)
217-244-1478(fax)
fboyle@law.uiuc.edu
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TEXT:
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
Date: 2/4/2000 Friday
THE MEETING BETWEEN THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ORGANIZATION OF MOTHERS
OF SREBRENICA AND PODRINJA AND PROSECUTOR FOR THE INTERNATIONAL WAR
CRIMES TRIBUNAL, MADAME DEL PONTE
Organization of Mothers of Srebrenica and Podrinja Representatives
President: Mujic Zineta
Vice-president: Mujkanovic Hafiza
President of the Executive Board: Mustafic Ibran
Attorney: Francis Boyle (FB)
ICTY Prosecutor's Office Representatives
The Prosecutor: Madame Del Ponte (DP)
ICTY Chief Investigator for Srebrenica: Jean-Rene Ruez
3rd Person: On ICTY
Staff
Meeting occurred from 10:00 am.-11:00 am. on Friday, Feb. 4th 2000.
10:00 am.
DP: Welcomes us.
FB: - Thank you for meeting with us. We want to discuss the UN Report.
Before that, three presidents of the Organization of Mothers of
Srebrenica
and Podrinja would like to make their statements.
Zineta: - Thanks for the opportunity. Finally we come to the place where
justice is done. - Thanks to Prof. Boyle, without him we wouldn't be
here.
Tears and pain do not help.
- It is too bad that we couldn't bring here more of us. There are 10,000
like us. That is 10,000 of our children. Why are we the ones to lose
everything? They took our children from us. They took all from 7-70.
DP: - How many total? ------ 10,000 (French investigator confirms with a
nod)
Zineta: - With help from the indicted. Thanks for having us at this
place
of truth.
Hafiza: - I am one of 10,000 through which you can see other mothers.
- After 5 years and after my pain I am glad to be here in the place of
justice.
- I wish all of us (mothers) could be here but I would like to invite
you
to meet them in Vogosca.
- I am the only surviver in my family, but I am not the only one like
this.- I lost two sons, husband, brothers and I only have one
granddaughter left.
- After my tragedy, my aim is to get justice and to find out who did
this.
- I represent 10,000 mothers.
- Thanks ahead for your help.
Ibran: - The president of the executive board.
- In the moment when 10,000 where massacred, I was the representative in
Bosnian Parliament from Srebrenica. That is why I have a legitimate
right to fight.
- I lost 146 male members of my family.
- Seven days ago, Tina Mujic whose 5 sons and 5 grandsons were killed,
died.
- During the massacre, I was held in Bratunac in a warehouse with 350
people. I've never seen any of them again. They are considered
disappeared.
- With Prof. Boyle, we submit this complaint based on UN reports against
the individuals named. If these individuals are not punished, that would
contaminate the role of UN in their missions all over the world and in
Bosnia. This might be a way for UN to save some dignity.
FB: (A SHORT SUMMARY)
Went over the charges mentioned in the complaint.
Discuses his personal eye witness accounts on plans created by the UN to
ethnically split Bosnia and his fight in the World Court where he won
the decision that it is illegal to do so.
UN deliberately sacrificed Srebrenica to tidy-up the Dayton map.
- Following documents are sufficient to proceed:
UN report
World Court decision - no split of Bosnia
Law-suit Against Britain
David Owen incriminates himself - Appendix
Documentary: "Srebrenica: A Cry From The Grave"
Book: "Endgame: The Betrayal of Srebrenica" by David Rohde
- All these documents combined should be enough evidence for the
investigation.
- It is important to note that the UN report is watered down. It is not
an independent report. It is an in-house job, and a cover up by UN
officials.
- Milosevic hasn't been indicted. 10,000 killed in Srebrenica is as many
as killed in Kosovo. Srebrenica by itself should be enough to indict
him.
Allows three presidents to make final statements.
Ibran: - We know that on the 15th Milosevic, Karadzic, and Akashi had a
meeting.
- On the 16th, Erdemovic killed 160. He only got 5 years.
Zineta: - Milosevic needs to get captured as fast as possible. Too bad
he is not here on trial.
Hafiza: - We 10,000 mothers want this to go as fast as possible. We
expect the truth from you.
DP: - I am an independent prosecutor and I will read these documents
very carefully. The priority is to get the perpetrators. They are the ones
who did the killings. Kofi Anan did not do the killing but Karadzic did. The
UN officials made the mistakes but they did not kill.
Ibran: - It was a demilitarized zone. Only innocent were victims.
Ruez: - It wasn't completely demilitarized.
Ibran: - Than we need to ask Izetbegovic and Delic why it wasn't
demilitarized.
- We want justice. If justice is not done then revenge will happen and
that is not what we want.
DP: - The UN officials do not belong on top of the list but Mladic,
Karadzic, and Milosevic do.
- I will visit Vogosca. I will read the documentation and I want to talk
to you (Boyle) more.
- You will have an answer.
11:00 am.
Notes taken and prepared by: Ibrahim Sendijarevic
- BSE, University of Michigan, 1997
- Masters in Chemical Engineering,
University of Illinois, 1999
- Ph.D. Candidate,
University of Illinois
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Remarks by FB regarding the meeting:
According to my notes of the meeting, Madame Del Ponte said the
following:
"I am independent..."
"I will do my job...."
"I will examine what you are writing down here...."
"I will proceed."
Francis A. Boyle
Professor of International Law
Attorney for the Mothers of Srebrenica and Podrinja
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3. PREDSTAVLJAMO PATRIOTSKE PODUHVATE
Slijedeci linkovi vas vode do znacajnih patriotkskih poduhvata Bosanaca i
Hercegovica.
http://www.ferhadija.com
http://zvornikbih.cjb.net
http://interliber.com/SearchResults.asp?SID=Interliber%5E2147065324-65370&SearchText=borogovac&Submit.x=66&Submit.y=13
http://interliber.com/SearchResults.asp?SID=Interliber%5E2147065324-65370&SearchText=Lucarevic&Submit.x=74&Submit.y=10
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